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 Berichttitel: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
BerichtGeplaatst: 03 jun 2017, 08:43 
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Hello, I'm new to this forum and de waard tents and need some help!
I've been looking at second hand tents, and settled on an albatross Junior for the model.
Can anyone explain the difference between the type1,2 and 3?
Which is strongest, what updates were made etc
Also does anyone know how much you should be for one second hand?

Thank you very much for you time in advance!!

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 Berichttitel: Re: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
BerichtGeplaatst: 03 jun 2017, 09:27 
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Type 1 doesn't have portal poles, type 2 does have them. The type 3 does to, but has different lines, more like a Lepelaar. Take a look in the forum wiki, and you will spot al the differences easy. Also, type 3 comes with a Vario awning, imo a nice addition to all tents.


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 Berichttitel: Re: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
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Thank you, just looked at the wiki and can see the differences.
Any strength differences with these?


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 Berichttitel: Re: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
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I think the types are all very strong because they are all storm tents :) But, if you're looking for a second hand tent, then off course the lesser the tent has been used, the more durable and stronger it will be. Maybe a newer used Stormvogel is also worth considering? It's slightly bigger. What's your budget? Did you check Marktplaats.nl?


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If there's enough budget, I would go for a Stormvogel. As Robbe already said, slightly higher entrance, slightly deeper (sleeping part) en slighty less rounded in the back. Especially if you would like to have the 'varioluifel', it's hard to find a Albatros Junior with one.

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 Berichttitel: Re: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
BerichtGeplaatst: 03 jun 2017, 15:55 
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Thank you for the info!

I've found a Junior with varioluifel in good condition.
It's just for me and my partner to use, no kids!

Is the Junior still a bit small for this?
I'd consider the stormvogel if you recommend that it is.

Does the stormvogel cover a larger floor space?

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An Albatros Junior is more than OK for 2. But keep in mind that it's slightly lower than the Stormvogel. That can make a difference if you stand below the varioluifel (standing straight or with a bend in your neck), depending on your own height ofcourse.

The width of the Stormvogel and Albatros Jr is the same. The entrance is 1.95m vs 1.80/1.75 (Jr 3/2&1). Depth of sleeping compartment 2.20m vs 2.00.

The current (new) Stormvogel has grown even further (with, depth, hight). But I assume you are not looking to buy a new one.

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Did you find one on Marktplaats.nl? If you share the ad, we can judge the tent & price for you :wink:

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https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/caravans-e ... =lr&pos=18


I can't thank you enough for all of the info!


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This is a stormvogel I looked at too :

https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/caravans-e ... =lr&pos=14


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The first ad is an Albatros Junior II. It doesn't say how many weeks the tent is used (10 holidays, but not how many weeks). I guess it's at least 30. Besides, there's a significant colour difference between tent and awnings. Perhaps those were bought later.

The second ad seems to be a nice Stormvogel, 20 weeks useage. If that is true (hard to tell from pictures), it's definitely worth considering. Asking price is a bit stiff, but for let's say € 700 not a bad deal. If I had to choose, this Stormvogel would be my choice.

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 Berichttitel: Re: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
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The Stormvogel is a bit pricier, but it's a very complete tent with, if the seller's honest, only 20 weeks. Nice!


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 Berichttitel: Re: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
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Thank you for the advice, could I ask one more question!

I've contacted both owners - the stormvogel owner cannot ship the tent to the uk unfortunately but the albatross owner is happy too.

Do you think it would be a bad or risky purchase to go for the Junior?

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 Berichttitel: Re: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jun 2017, 11:58 
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Also, are the inner tents and variouluffel for the Junior the same as for the stormvogel?

Thanks


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 Berichttitel: Re: Albatross Junior Type 1,2,3.
BerichtGeplaatst: 05 jun 2017, 14:16 
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Hello
About the Albatross junior I, II & III; I am in the same quandary - I really would like to know if the addition of the upright poles by the door was a major improvement. I can see from the mark 1 that it can be difficult to align the door zips on each side to open and close them - am guessing that the addition of the upright door poles made it easier to open /close the door zippers. Is the Mark II and III easier to put up? is the weight of the poles the same wth all the models ( I see they went from dark brown to a lighter brown.
I have found a Mark I in good condition with a huge wind shield but no sun shield, I love the faded brown doors and character - but have also found a newer Albatros junior with Sun shield and wind shield - with the upright door poles - which would you recommend I should buy? The Mark i or the mark III


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